Hit 32 degrees at my house around 520p, and ice is already all over my deck...while some limited snow accumulation is possible, my concern is for black ice and travel tonight through tomorrow morning. With that said, I have someone new coming in by 9pm to lay down salt on Apple Creek Road, which should protect us through this time period. Just a heads up for a salting rig if you're out and about then.
Even if some snow falls on the roads, the warm ground temps will help melt it as well as the ice, so not anticipating any plowing needs at this time.
Will update as necessary.
Bob
it's just gone down to 32 here at 579 and when I just looked out on the deck there is a very slight dusting of snow, even though there doesn't seem to be any snow coming down right now....
ReplyDeleteYeah, radar is looking thin,hence my lack of concern for snow, just the ice. Things will greatly improve by noon tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteat 6:50am at 579 - still just a light dusting on the deck but now down to 23 and the snow is still falling lightly. I can still see road surface but didn't go out to see whether it is icy. It's a fine morning to just have a fire and sit in front of it....
ReplyDelete21 at my place and thankful the snow didn't develop, truth be told. More amazing is that at 7a the last of all that precipitation is leaving MAINE....MUCH faster system than forecast. Gorgeous glow on the horizon right now.
ReplyDeleteSEEMS LIKE YOU MISSED THE OLE FORECAST AND FORGOT ONE IMPORTANT NATURAL OCCURRENCE.....EVAPORATION! THE ROAD WAS WARM AND THE FEARED BLACK ICE NEVER HAPPENED ANOTHER WASTE OF HOMEOWNER FUNDS FOR SALT! NICE. ONCE AGAIN A OLD WISE MAN ONCE SAID.....IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE WEATHER GO LOOK OUTSIDE AND DO NOT TRY TO FORECAST AND SPECULATE!
ReplyDeleteWell, well, well. With regards to the last comment - yes, there is evaporation when the triple-point is reached. (if you don't know what that means go look it up) However, if the temperature drop quickly passes the triple-point then there can be significant moisture left that will freeze, which is what we witnessed the other night. (yes, go outside and look - I did) From a homeowners liability point, NOT salting would have been a bad move, as anyone who could have slid off the road could, quite frankly, offer a lawsuit against us. I know this because 70% of my clients are attorneys. It was not a waste of funds - actually we got lucky, as the low pressure that reformed did so about 50 miles further east that was anticipated. If we had not salted and the event unfolded as most experts felt that it would we would have had a roadway with significant icing. Waiting until it happens in not the right thing to do, as a lot of us on the mountain work for a living and need to get down.
ReplyDeleteAs far as posting anonymously - If you have a problem, at least be grown-up enough to identify who you are. I am....
Al Rose
Mr. Rose thank you for you speculative insight and being man enough to put your name out there. This allows me to state a couple of things about your driving habits. Because of the way you and your wife speed(speed being the key word) up and down the mountain you have created a reputation. On many occasions many folks have had to swerve to avoid your speeding habits. I suggest you follow the speed limit signs and abide by the rules of the mountain. Maybe you should consult one of your many lawyer clients and discuss with them what the words "speed limit" mean.
ReplyDeleteAs far as "lawsuits", it is not the Homeowners Association that is liable for anyone who chooses to live on a mountain in the winter on a private road. You or anyone else who chooses to drive in poor conditions does so at their own risk. The threat of a lawsuit is absurd as it would be essentially suing yourself. Many of us work but none of us can control the weather. I suggest you make sure that when the feared black ice and snow do come that you make the right and safe call as far as getting down the mountain!
As far as the "ifs" you mentioned they never happened. There was no luck involved. It was a waste of funds.
Good morning. Let's address your comments backwards:
ReplyDelete1. It was not a waste of money. You should always be proactive. If you wait until an event takes place it is then too late, as it takes salt a few hours to work.
2. Lawsuits - if the homeowners association chooses not to take care of the roads, and in this instance someone does slide off, there is liability to the HOA. Please consult with an attorney before you make your conclusions. The covenants are clear, as is NC law. Look it up.
3. Speeding - first, I could also complain about the people here on the mountain who choose to go 10 mph as well, but I will not. The HOA can post speed limits; however they are not laws, nor are they enforceable. Again, look it up. As far as having a reputation - fine by me. I drive based on the conditions, and, quite frankly, drive more miles, and have had more training in driving than probably anyone on this mountain. In fact, in heavy snow events, there are only a couple of us who can safely get up and down the mountain, myself being one of them.
Again, you refuse to post your identity, so this will be my last answer to your comments. Based on my survey of ACA residents, you are certainly in the minority with your opinions, of which you are certainly allowed to have a voice. I am...
Al Rose
I would just like to say that I feel there is a need to keep the roads safe for driving for more reasons than getting to work (which is sometimes something that people can choose to do or not). For example, health situations may require medical care and yet not be enough of an emergency to justify calling 911. I for one appreciate it when we can keep ahead of possible problem road conditions.
ReplyDeleteWell,
ReplyDeletethose of us northerners who have experience with ice and snow recognize the utility of prophylactic salting, and i think that it was a good idea. as for getting up and down the mountain, i have found that some tire chains have made all the difference, and larry would agree. i have found that the diamond pattern chains on www.tirechain.com work well. as for speed, well, some people are woefully inconsiderate and drive far to fast (and recklessly) and put the rest of us in danger. there may not be a law governing speed in our area, but some people are screaming up and down at 30+ mph, and that is ridiculous. talk about lawsuits. so, from a yankee's perspective, if you want to drive in inclimate weather, drive slowly and cautiously if you have to go out and be considerate. thank you.
Frank Moskos from the Blue Roof